Comment by Michael Prasuhn (not verified) on Sat, 2008/05/03 - 3:13pm.
I prefer COBOL ON COGS as a framework over Perl on Pogosticks.
Seriously though, someone made a great post to the devel list about this at one point, and claimed that the real reason people and companies use things like Oracle, or Flash, is simply to be resue builder. A Postgres admin gets more than a MySQL admin, but an Oracle DB administrator gets at least twice the rate that either of them do. Someone who can build a flash app gets two to three times more than someone who can build an HTML page w/ Javascript degradeability. Therefore, someone who can code a social networking application from scratch in Rails, make more money than someone who can build/code the same site in Drupal.
What's the cost of this "my solution is fancier and more complicated than yours" paradigm? The customer loses and the superiority of the high and mighty developer is maintained. Drupal is trying to break all these rules. The more power is taken away from developers and put into the hands of everyday site builders, and the lower the level of entry is made to becoming a develoepr, the more vicious the attacks and fighting will become.
So remember this everytime someone comes up and says Drupal is too heavy of framework, it's not what "real" sites use. That person is really trying to protect the old-guard, in a way that ultimately does the customer a disservice. So when you see or hear this FUD, be honest about it, but don't be negative, the other side has made this out to be a holy war, and we don't need to perpetuate that. State the facts about why Drupal is better and the benefits for the customer/end user. I may be old fashioned, but I really do believe that when you're right, the truth is enough to convince those that want the truth, and anyone that doesn't listen, knows the truth and is probably trying to cover it up.
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I prefer COBOL ON COGS as a framework over Perl on Pogosticks.
Seriously though, someone made a great post to the devel list about this at one point, and claimed that the real reason people and companies use things like Oracle, or Flash, is simply to be resue builder. A Postgres admin gets more than a MySQL admin, but an Oracle DB administrator gets at least twice the rate that either of them do. Someone who can build a flash app gets two to three times more than someone who can build an HTML page w/ Javascript degradeability. Therefore, someone who can code a social networking application from scratch in Rails, make more money than someone who can build/code the same site in Drupal.
What's the cost of this "my solution is fancier and more complicated than yours" paradigm? The customer loses and the superiority of the high and mighty developer is maintained. Drupal is trying to break all these rules. The more power is taken away from developers and put into the hands of everyday site builders, and the lower the level of entry is made to becoming a develoepr, the more vicious the attacks and fighting will become.
So remember this everytime someone comes up and says Drupal is too heavy of framework, it's not what "real" sites use. That person is really trying to protect the old-guard, in a way that ultimately does the customer a disservice. So when you see or hear this FUD, be honest about it, but don't be negative, the other side has made this out to be a holy war, and we don't need to perpetuate that. State the facts about why Drupal is better and the benefits for the customer/end user. I may be old fashioned, but I really do believe that when you're right, the truth is enough to convince those that want the truth, and anyone that doesn't listen, knows the truth and is probably trying to cover it up.
Sorry for such a long rant.